Tuesday, July 14, 2009

Goodreads Discussion

Considering some discussions my friends and I have on certain books, I expected comments on my blog when I brought up certain books, but usually don't receive any. I also place brief reviews on Goodreads and periodically receive feedback. Last week, Michelle finished Dead and Gone by Charlaine Harris and I posted a brief comment on her review, which has led to 12 comments that I have found humorous. I love these debates. Feel free to add your opinion if you would like.

M- I can't believe you are still a Bill-hater. He "slightly" redeems himself in this book.

M- Yeah . . . still don't like him.

K- I feel bad for him - I think he really loves Sookie and he blew it. Maybe he'll keep her on True Blood.

M- They made Eric do something despicable on TB that I think Sookie may not be able to forgive, whereas Bill is more redeemable on the show so far. As for the books, my opinion of Bill changed with this book. Hearing Eric's story showed how Bill had no control over his betrayal of Sookie. When he was willing to give his life to protect her, I finally caved and accepted him as a contender again. Yes, I was a Bill-hater, but now I'm in wait and see mode. Where the hell was Eric during this time? During the book, I thought Eric viewed Sookie as a more of a possession or obsession rather than a lover.

K- I think Eric does truly love her, at least in the books. He's amazed he does, but he does. On the show he (at least at this point) seems to enjoy Sookie and equally enjoy pushing Bill's buttons by showing he likes her.

I think they did the Lafayette thing just to have a way to keep him alive yet out of the way for a few days. I'm not sure book-Eric would have done that - didn't seem his style.

M- I still haven't watched TB, though the more y'all talk about it the more I want to go out and buy it.

B- As far as the books go, I was never a Bill-hater but I was never a Bill-lover either. I always thought that he loved Sookie and I understood why he did certain things. That said, I don't think understanding why or believing in the love is enough. Some things just can't be recovered from.

I agree with Kelasher--I think Eric does truly love Sookie.

I haven't watched any TB Season 2 episodes yet--based on the first season though, Bill does come across better than he does in the books.

D- Sorry, I think Eric without his memory loved Sookie, and he kinda remembers that, but I think Eric, a Big Vampire is just drawn to her. Now, Bill really loves her. I think he HAD to do what he's done in the past, but he loves her. I still think he will die in the end though. Wish he wouldn't, but....

K- Why do you think he will die? I've heard Charlaine Harris does kill off major characters sometimes, but I can't see her killing Bill.

D- No, she won't kill him. Maybe if the series had stayed as light as it started (yeah, people died, but they were unknown victims), he would have lived and they would have had a HEA. But I guess my American lit classes are kicking in and, as much as I like Bill, the question is has he been able to redeem himself enough to have an HEA? He's so tortured.... sigh. Now, I can see Eric surviving whatever epic showdown is coming with the forces of *evil* and though he will lust forever for Sookie, he's not the one with whom she will find happiness. I wish it could be Bill.

M- Of course, Eric or Bill will die or something bad will happen to make one of them unacceptable enough that we won't cheer them on. One of the chief complaints about Meyer's books was how easily Bella and Jacob became friends after the final decision. You can't be friends with someone who has been a major competitor for your heart.

With Bill's willingness to die for Sookie, he can't lose her and accept it, so the option is he wins her or ultimately dies for her. He won't simply walk away and accept her love of another man.

Harris is willing to go dark. She's willing to kill off a major character for the plot. I can see it happening. It's not a done deal, but it's a possibility.

M- OK, here's my two cents: I don't think she will end up with Bill or Eric in the end (at least not as the characters are now, they are both too flawed.) I think she will end up with someone else. . . Sam perhaps. I have already told Mel that I love Eric, but if Sookie had a chance with Sam, I would drop Eric in a heartbeat. He is just too sweet. He lets her be herself, he understands her problems and does not try to manipulate her. He cares about her, but still lets her make her own mistakes.

What do you think?

10 comments:

Delia said...

Oh, are we continuing this here? What, you want comments on your blog? heh. I'd drop Eric for Sam, but I'd keep Bill over either. On the plus side for Sam, he's ALIVE. He will age with Sookie, albeit at different rates, but they will share this experience. With Eric or Bill, eventually Sookie will age and die (unless she becomes a vampire, which I don't think she will), and Eric and Bill will not change. But on the minus side for Sam, well, he's a dog.

Melissa said...

Of course, I want people to comment on the blog, but we can continue the discussion on goodreads. I just found the discussion funny. We really are passionate about these characters.

I agree that Sam is a dog. After the whole thing with the were-girl, I lost patience with Sam. Much less, he had plenty of time with Sookie and never made a move until someone else started marking their territory.

You know me, I'm vamp all the way, it has to be Eric or Bill. I'm still torn between the two. I've loved Eric since Book 4 and hated Bill until recently. Bill has slowly won me over in the last few books, but especially Book 9, which has led me to question Eric's motives for being involved with Sookie.

May the best man win as well as the best debater among us.

Delia said...

I actually meant that Sam is a dog-dog, but you're right, he's a dog in his behavior, too. Ms. Harris will decide who wins the battle of the Vamps, and there's no winning or losing in this debate, just fun. After all, the winner won't be appointing Supreme Court justices!

Delia said...

Sorry. I'm dumb.

Melissa said...

Not dumb. I was subtle with the doggy comment and marking his territory. All in the play on words.

Sorry, but I'm a little competitive and once the final decision has been made by Ms. Harris, there will be winners. My fear is a final decision will be a while coming. With the tv show, I wonder if she will write an ending at this time or wait. The show has gone a different direction so I hope she'll not let it influence the books. I read somewhere that people thought the reason she changed Sookie's viewpoint of Bill in Book 9 was due to the reactions of viewers of the show.

Michelle said...

See and what y'all view as doggy behavior, I view as Sam just giving Sookie time to make her own decisions. I can't help it I still can't forgive Bill. Maybe it is because I have never seen True Blood.

Delia said...

Oh, good, another purist who disdains the alterations to the well-developed characters that exist in Ms. Harris's books. Nevertheless, maybe because I always pictured Sam as way older than Sookie (old enough to own a bar in rural Louisiana), I never could warm up to Sam. Besides, there's the whole he's-gotta-mate-with-other-women-for-the-good-of-the-race thing. Ick.

Michelle said...

I hadn't thought about the mating thing, but I guess I figured that Sam was different in that respect because he is a shifter not a were (maybe i'm wrong?) And as for him being too old for Sookie . . .what about the centuries old vamps she's been hooking up with? I think Sookie will have trouble finding a guy her own age, because all the humans are freaked out by the psychic thing.

Delia said...

True. I meant I thought Sam LOOKED older. Perception is all. heh.

Colette said...

I'm rooting for Sam in both the TB series and the books. He's H-O-T